On 10/6/07, Rob Blanchard wrote: > It is on a solderless breadboard and it has been reseated many times. > My programmer (Chipmaster 6000) doesn't support the 877A so that's not > an option. > One option is to forget about this ChipMaster and buy the cheap PICkit 2 (US$35+shipment) and a ZIF socket. It seems to be an old product and the upgrade is quite expensive. http://www.logicaldevices.com/Products/cm6000.htm Last time when I was deciding to buy a programmer for PIC development back in early year 2000, there were two options, one was to upgrade the universal programmer from Sprint (now Data I/O). It was so expensive to update the software that I chose the 2nd option -- to buy a Promate II and some sockets. Xiaofan -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist