Hi Neil,

He mentioned already, it's room temp - he tries to program it couple of
times, then suddenly it succeeds and then it works fine from that point
until he leaves it for more than two hours.

What I was wondering if that is really the PIC or the programmer if that
supplies the correct Vpp and Vdd or if that is from an external power source
if that source is the faulty. Also if that PIC can be programmed by a
different programmer when it's 'cold'? BTW a freezer spray would be worth to
try I think so that the PIC could be cooled down separately of other parts
to see if the PIC itself is the weak point here.

Tamas




On 10/6/07, PicDude <picdude2@avn-tech.com> wrote:
>
> Hmmm... that's interesting. I am working with 16F877's and 16F877A's right
> now
> and I'm very curious. If you tell me what temp you're considering cold,
> I'd
> be interested to experiment with my setup here.
>
> Cheers,
> -Neil.
>
>
>
> On Friday 05 October 2007 13:45, Rob Blanchard wrote:
> > Is this an indication of a bad part?
> > It will then successfully program on the 6th or 7th pass and verify
> > ok.
> >
> > It's in a midi project that will sometimes work correctly, other times
> > will miss midi messages.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rob
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