--- David VanHorn wrote: > So I tried varying the operating voltage. > 12 batteries is what I've been using, the old lamps > glow weakly, new > ones flash nicely. > 11 batteries, new lamps flash very slowly, old lamps > glow weaker. > 10 batteries, only one or two of the new lamps > flash, old lamps are off. To me it seems clear that the old bulbs are worn out, albeit prematurely. > I have never, EVER > seen one of these > circuits use a limiting resistor in series with the > lamp. Until recently, all the circuits I have ever seen(and built) have ALWAYS had limiting resistors. I think this is the reason for the premature wear on the bulbs. Cheerful regards, Bob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist