> How much of that is down to the quality of the cells and how > much down to the quality of the charger I wonder? I know Russell has had experiences with Chinese batteries, and the expectation is, rightly or wrongly, that they aren't top-notch. ISTR Russell's turned out to be fakes. It might well be that a better charger would improve the lifetime. I must say that the chargers that come with many of these tools are basic (my 18V B&D Predator has just a barely-regulated 24V plugpack), and that batteries do seem to go flat rather quickly. Probably worth looking into -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist