v002 After trying many things, this is what I do: I figure out where the physical item is to be filed....... If it is paper, it can go in paper file. If it is a CD, or DVD it can go in the general paper files or in separate paper files. If it is a sample, It can go in the paper file if it is small enough, otherwise I throw it in a sample box. If it is a finished project I throw it in a box large enough to hold it. I then give it a filing # ( aka F# ) . If it goes in the general paper file I label it Gnnn-xxxx. I give it the next number in sequence. If it is a DVD or CD or tape , I label it Tnnn-xxxx. I give it the next number in sequence. If it is a sample I bag it in a clear small bag and label and file it in Snnn- xxxx. If it is a large thing, I tag it as Lnnn-xxxx and throw it in a box. If the item has not physical substance ( image, source file, etc. , I label it Vnnn-xxxx ( virtual ). I then electronically file it in a V folder. If I have a project , in which I want to keep to keep all the items together, I create a new Project category Pnnn-0000. The key to all this is my database. In my database I have a 2 filing # fields, first 4 symbols (F# hi ) and last 4 symbols (F# lo ) a created date field, a revised date field an author field a description field ( be sure to include key words here ) This allows me to search for created date, revised date, description keywords, etc. I then get a filing # that I can use to go access the file contents. Example: G001-9999 was the last general paper based thing I filed. Now I want to file another paper based thing. I increment the F# to get G002-0001 ( I never use 0000 for a lo number ). If I am creating a new project I look for the largest Pnnn ( F# hi ) number I can find. If it is P043 , then I create a P044-0000 entry and in the description field I describe the project. If I get to P999, then I create Pa99 as the next F# hi entry. Oh, yeah I use Filemaker for my database, and almost any other database would be easy to use. When I post my projects or documents on the internet , I use my F# as the first part of the file name. ex: P023-0087 Cis-Lunar Strobe project timetable To save this file on my F# server, I put this in a folder entitled "P023" which is in a folder P000 "Projects" To do a search ( on a computer ) I use the Mac OS X spotlight search to find any files that have strayed from the correct folder. This system has few dependencies on database quirks or search quirks or operating system quirks. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist