From: http://ohiopeps.org/4733/4733.021.html Ohio R.C. section 4733.021 Restricting use of title engineer by itself or with other terms (A) Except for an individual who, as part of the internal classification = system of the individual=92s employer, uses the title =93engineer=94 by its= elf = or in conjunction with another term described in division (B) of this = section and who does not represent the individual=92s self to the public = or otherwise advertise the individual=92s self as an engineer, no = individual shall, in connection with the individual=92s name, assume, use, = or advertise: (1) The title =93engineer=94 by itself unless the individual is an engineer; (2) The title =93engineer=94 in conjunction with another term that modifies = the title =93engineer=94 in a manner that conveys the impression that the = individual is a graduate of an accredited engineering curriculum unless = the individual is a graduate of an accredited engineering curriculum. (B) Terms used in conjunction with the title =93engineer=94 under division = (A)(2) of this section that imply a person is a graduate of an = accredited engineering curriculum include the following: =93aerospace,=94 = =93agricultural,=94 =93civil,=94 =93chemical,=94 =93computer,=94 =93electri= cal,=94 = =93industrial,=94 =93mechanics,=94 =93mechanical,=94 =93metallurgical,=94 = =93mining,=94 = =93naval architectural and marine,=94 =93nuclear,=94 and any other term com= monly = used by an institution of higher learning to apply to graduates of an = accredited engineering curriculum. (C) Nothing in this section shall be interpreted as prohibiting the use, = assumption, or advertisement of the title =93steam engineer=94 or = =93stationary engineer,=94 by or on behalf of a person licensed under = *Chapter 4739 .* of the Revised Code, or = the term =93railroad engineer=94 or =93locomotive engineer,=94 by or on beh= alf = of a person authorized to operate a railroad locomotive, or the term = =93operating engineer,=94 by or on behalf of a person who operates, = maintains, repairs, or manufactures light or heavy construction equipment. Jeff Findley wrote: > "Carl Denk" wrote in message = > news:46D96D25.7050306@alltel.net... > = >> In the state of Ohio, and many other states a "professional Engineer" is >> defined as one that has 4 years of approved education, passed an exam on >> fundamentals, 4 years of approved practical experience, and passed an >> exam on a specialty. And I have simplified the requirements a bit. >> Privileges then include being an "expert witness" in the courts, and >> generating construction plans that building officials may accept as >> conforming to the building codes and good practice for public safety. >> Ohio does not distinguish between specialties (civil, structural, >> electrical, mechanical, etc.), but does allow practice in areas of >> competence. >> = > > You don't have to be an official Professional Engineer in order to hold d= own = > a job with Engineer in the title. You just can't call yourself a = > Professional Engineer and you don't have legal standing with the state as= a = > Professional Engineer. > > I write computer software for a living but I have an Aerospace Engineerin= g = > degree (I'm not a PE). In college, I had exactly one Fortran 77 course, = but = > I held down a co-op job where I did computer programming, which led to my = > current full time job. The software I write is decidedly engineering = > related, since I write CAE/Finite Element Analysis software for a living. = > Many of my engineering classes directly apply to this field. In fact, I = had = > several Finite Element Analysis classes in college, which all required a = > solid foundation in other engineering classes, such as structural, therma= l, = > vibrational, and etc. analyses. > > So, am I an engineer or a computer programmer, or both? I'll also note t= hat = > most of the people I work with who also write the same, or similar, softw= are = > are engineers by degree (mostly mechanical with some aerospace and others= ). = > Where I work, we prefer people who understand the underlying engineering, = > otherwise the software we write would be pretty useless to our customers, = > who are definately engineers by profession. > > Jeff > p.s. For me, PIC is definitely a hobby. ;-) > = -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist