Gerhard Fiedler wrote: > wouter van ooijen wrote: > > >>> professional: From >>> >>> Noun >>> professional (plural professionals) >>> 1. A person who belongs to a profession >>> 2. A person who earns his living from a specified activity" >>> >> 1. is circular end hence (IMO) meaningless, unless "profession" has a >> more interesting definion. >> > > IMO it's not circular. It would be if the definition of "profession" > referred to "professional" -- but it doesn't (in that dictionary); that's > why I added it to my post. Where is the circle? > > BTW, such references are quite common in dictionaries. AIUI this is not > because they don't have anything better to write, but because when two > words are very similar this doesn't necessarily mean that their meanings > are in the same way derived from each other as the grammatical forms are. > So saying that this is so does provide information, in that it could not be > so (and is not in several cases). > > >> I agree with 2., but many other people (maybe even the majority) seem to >> disagree. >> > > Well, yes, maybe (if the few posters on this thread can classify as a > majority :). But then there are other dictionaries. I just wonder why (or > how, with a certain level of expertise :) discussing the meaning of a term > is possible without even consulting a single dictionary, let alone several. > To me, that seems to be the starting point. At the very least the > discussion can then focus on the differences. > > Gerhard > > Dictionaries reflect what the users believe a word means. They aren't the *source* of meaning, but theoretically a reflection of what the majority believe. Over time the meaning of a word can change. Just adding my 2 kilos of fat to the fire ;-> -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist