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> Tony Smith wrote:
> > I spend most of my days doing VBA stuff, VB programmers 
> look down on 
> > me
> > :)
> >
> > It's a nice niche, doing stuff that's 'too hard' for normal people, 
> > and 'we don't do that' from the 'real' programmers.  Stuck between 
> > ignorance & snobbery.
> >
> Tony, I was just reading one of the final chapters in the MMM 
> where Brooks talks about this exact thing. It's the logical 
> step forward for software development -- why mess with nuts & 
> bolts, when you can put large assemblies together to get the 
> desired result in a fraction of the time?
> 
> Theoretically, the bigger are the pieces that you're working 
> with (complexity-wise), the more efficient you are as a 
> software developer. The trick is having general-purpose 
> pieces to work with (Excel & Access fall into this category, 
> according to Brooks).
> 
> I really don't get people who insist on doing it the hard way.
> 
> Vitaliy
> 
> PS So, what book would you recommend for someone who wants to 
> learn VBA? :) 


A lot of people still have the 'I have a hammer, look at all the nails'
view, not 'best tool for the job'.  Why that is (snobbery? ignorance?), who
knows.  My job is not to write code, but to provide a solution.  If that
solution happens to be 'throw away the bar code scanners and use pen &
paper', so be it.

I realised a while back that most of the apps I was writing could be done in
XL.  Snobbery & ignorance on my part.

You really can't beat Excel for 'crunch some data & make a graph' in 90% of
cases.  The .zip I've attached shows a typical XL dashboard type app.  It
grabs data (3 days of readings) from the Oz government weather site, and
puts it on a graph.  It'll refresh when you open it, you may get a warning
message, just say ok.

Nothing spectacular, except it's two minutes work & zero code.

In make that XL, you do the following:

- Click 'Data, Import External, New web query'.  That flicks up a browser.
- Enter the web address,
<http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDN60801/IDN60801.94768.shtml> in this case.
- Once loaded, select the tables you want.  In XL2000, you had pick a number
corresponding to a table, later versions puts arrows next to them that you
just tick.
- Hit 'Import'
- The query will run, and dump the data on the sheet.
- Right click on the data, and select 'Data Range Properties'
- Tick 'Refresh data on file open', and 'Refresh every xx minutes' if you
like.

That's the data import done, now to the chart.

- On the data sheet, select the range for the temperature, probably B4:B162.
- Click the 'Chart' button, pick Line (top left, no markers), click 'Next'.
- Click 'Series', put 'Temperaure' as the Name, and the 'X-Axis labels' as
A4:A162.
- Fiddle with the various options, like turn the legend off, Axis labels,
and click 'Next'
- Pick 'Put chart on New sheet', hit 'Finish'

Now to add rainfall line.

- Right-click on the chart, select 'Source data'
- Hit 'Add' for a new series.  Enter 'Rainfall' as the 'Name'
- It'll pick up the X-axis labels, so just get the data (values); should be
N4:N162.

Ok, it plots the rainfall on the temperature axis, not a huge problem, but
it usually scales funny (bit small).

- Right-click on the 'Rainfall' line (probably purple), and select 'Format
data series'.
- Select the Axis tab, change it to 'Secondary'.

That'll put the rain figures scale on the right-hand side of the chart.

That's it, done in a few minutes.  10 years ago you'd need a team of
programmers to do that.  Now, anyone can do it.  That upsets a lot of
people, whether it's job security fears, lusers and their crappy M$ tools,
and so on.

If you look at the chart, it has a few flaws.  There are gaps due to the
data coming in a few separate chunks, each with their own header.  There's
various ways to fix this, but not obvious to most people.  Only 3 days of
data, why can't it save the old stuff?  Only one city, how do we pick a
different one?  Plenty of work, just stuff that you may not like (oh,
boo-hoo).

In a corporate environment you give people a link to the spreadsheet, which
then either connects to a database or a text file dump (good for daily
stats).  Or you could piss about making java apps to put on your intranet.

As far as VBA goes, learning it requires you to know the application it's
running in.  Knowing VB is ok, knowing XL is ok, but combining the two can
be difficult.  If you don't know how XL works, you simply end up write code
to do what XL already does.

Have a look at the books from www.j-walk.com.  The formulas one is quite
good, as well as chart one.  Wrox put out a good XL VBA one too.  (They also
have a Word VBA one, but only for Word 2000.)

Tony

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