Howard Winter wrote: >> Isn't there some general rule that the penalty must correlate somehow to >> the damage done that may override individual laws? At least in certain >> countries? > > There certainly is in Europe, Not sure you can say "Europe" WRT law yet, at least not generally :) > but it doesn't stop my local council having the same fine for overstaying > a car parking place by 1 minute as for not paying for it in the first > place. I think, WRT my comment above, that there is a difference between a fine and a penalty, and that the rule mostly only applies to penalties. But IANAL :) Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist