Would be interesting to do a real comparison of risk. Some numbers google pulls up indicate that car crashes (not fatalities, which are much lower) occur at a rate of less than 100 crashes per billion miles driven. I have no idea what the airplane crash rate is, so I can't do a comparison. I would be interested in seeing all airplane miles, not just commercial and shipping. Then it would be nice to see the comparison per hour of driving/flying, since planes can cover distance much faster. Of course, we can even stretch it out to include passenger counts (crashes per person/hour driving/flying) since airlines are like big buses. Perhaps we could collect stats for bus crashes as well, then use that as a comparative transform to see how risky a car really is. Statistics aside, though, are you really claiming that since driving accounts for more fatalities per year than X, Y, or Z activities, then it's pointless to discuss X, Y, or Z until the driving issue is handled? Or that every discussion on X, Y, or Z should have a disclaimer or acknowledgment that driving is worse? -Adam On 8/22/07, Nate Duehr wrote: > As always, driving your car to work (or to the mountains to go > rock-climbing, or to the airport to go flying) is by far the most > hazardous thing you'll probably do all day, unless you are exceedingly > reckless at other activities. > > Folks do that without even thinking about it. They then discuss how > hazardous the other activities are. LOL! -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Moving in southeast Michigan? Buy my house: http://ubasics.com/house/ Interested in electronics? Check out the projects at http://ubasics.com Building your own house? Check out http://ubasics.com/home/ -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist