OK, another question(s)... (and thanks for the previous answers)... Since a tc is 2 dissimilar metals, how do I tell which is which when attaching? Is the wire sold in pairs? And do I have to weld them on or just clamp to the tc ends. If welding, would standard oxy-acetylene gas welding do? I have noticed that all the meter probes do have what seem to be continuous wire to the connector, but then there is a 2-blade connector. How do they get away with that? And as long as I may end up with some lengths of tc wire after this, and may have welded some, is there any more art to making a tc other than joining the 2 in a blob at the end with a torch? Thanks, Skip -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist