tech@rentron.com wrote: >>Can you get toy remotes? it might be possible to modify one of them >>with the real "guts" as the wnner. I'm thinking along the lines of >>someting aimed at the very young. >> >>RP > > > They have a TV with its own working remote. This will be mailed out with the > others. One person (the winner I assume) will receive the working remote. > > The others will not work with the TV, and end up being throw aways after > the promotional gig. > > Toy remotes would work, but they need to be non-branded, have room for > a silk-screen logo, and have an LED that lights when a button is pressed. > > I don't think it matters what they look like, or even if they're IR for that matter. > > They intend to mail these out, have customers stop by, and try the remote > they received on the TV to see if they're the winner. > > I had a link to a manufacturer in HK or Taiwan some years back that had some > excellent deals on non-branded IR transmitters, but darned if I can find it now. > > Regards, So basically you only need a 'fake' remote with a non working LED. Only the 'real' remote will emit IR, presumably modulated. If you use 'real' IR remotes, what's to prevent someone from reconnecting the non-working LED, or to figure out what brand of TV is used and 'fake it'. e.g. use a hidden universal remote (even held by someone else in the room) to make it look like the 'dummy' remote works? I am pretty sure the geeks here could make a ring sized remote that could transmit a perfect replica of a big brand TV IR signal. Robert (to make a system secure, you have to think like a crook). -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist