Agree, I used Debian for years and years and a friend recommended Ubuntu since it's debian-based. It works beautifully out of the box, all hardware was setup w/o having to patch any drivers, modprobe and other unpleasant things just to get hardwork working. It's been my desktop of choice for about a year and a half now and love it. -Josh -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist