> Vitaliy, > = > On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:42:56 -0700, Vitaliy wrote: > = > > M. Adam Davis wrote: > > > It's too bad we can't self-certify such devices like CE allows one to= do. > > = > > = > > Have you ever actually done it? > > = > > Last time I checked, you had to fly a CE rep over to the certifying lab= , pay > > his fare/room/board, plus whatever CE charges for the rep to be on site. > = > I'm confused! CE is a certification mark (it means European Conformity, = in > French) - what would be a "CE Rep"? = > = > As far as I know there is no organisation for anyone to be a Rep for! An= y labs > doing certification work would know the requirements of the product they = are > testing in order to satisfy CE marking, so if you are using a lab they sh= ould be > able to do the work without outside interference - and as I say, there is= nobody > to do so anyway. > = > Cheers, > = The CE mark states that a product is compliant against all relevant europea= n = directives and legislations that are in the scope for that product. There a= re = quite a few: EMC - Electromagnetic compatibility, emission and immunity. LVD - Low voltage directive, electric safety against fire and shock. ATEX - Equipment used in explosive gas and dust atmosphere. Machine directive - Safety requirements for machines with moveable parts. R&TTE - Radio equipment. RoHS - Hazardous substances (including lead) WEEE - Waste electrical and electronic equipment TOYS - Safety of toys And some more... Some directives allows self-certification and some don't. Some directives h= ave = different levels, classes or categories where the lower ones allows self- certification (the ATEX directive for example). The directives normally don't state a specific standard to test against but = there are usually harmonized standards that, when met, will guarantee = compliance. In some cases there doesn't exist relevant standards or the = standards that do exist can't be used on the equipment. Then compliance can= be = done through a "technical construction file" where the manufacturer = demonstrates that the product meets the requirement of the directive. The = technical construction file also has to be assessed by a competent body. = The directives that don't allow self-certification will require that a = notified/competent/approved body assesses the equipment. In some cases the = identification number of the notified body must be included on the CE mark = (together with data, classes, categories, levels...). The EMC directive can be self certified to standards without the use of a = notified/competent/approved body for equipment that doesn't include a radio = transmitter. In the this case the declaration of conformity document must l= ist = all of the relevant harmonized standards that have been used. By signing th= is = declaration the manufacturer guarantees that the product is compliant to th= e = directive. The manufacturer doesn't even have to keep documents that shows = this. He actually doesn't even have to test the equipment. Some directives exclude other directives. The ATEX directive exlude the LVD = directive and the machine directive have it's own limits for EMC compliance = (which can't be self certified) to name some. /Ruben =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Ruben J=F6nsson AB Liros Electronic Box 9124, 200 39 Malm=F6, Sweden TEL INT +46 40142078 FAX INT +46 40947388 ruben@pp.sbbs.se =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -- = http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist