Jinx, On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 11:54:12 +1200, Jinx wrote: >... > "Realising that Auckland would > undergo more power cuts in the years to come, we chose gas > appliances for water heating, cooking and heating. This week, > with a 24 hour power cut in Orewa, we have discovered that all > our new gas appliances have been very carefully designed to need > electricity to operate the starters. We couldn't override the > automatic starters and hence had no hot water, no cooking and > no heating. ... Well the central heating and hot water I can understand - modern gas water heaters need fans to run the air in and exhaust out, and obviously active safety features such as flame-failure detection and overheat prevention need electricity, but a gas cooker? Surely that should just work by turning on the taps - of has the safely culture gone mad and there's electronic control of gas rings now? Cheers, Howard Winter St.Albans, England -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist