> The other end of the spectrum, of course, are the people who didn't > take any of my advice, and were asking for help, a week from the > deadline, trying to get an incomplete set of the wrong equipment to > do > the job. ("I need to know where to order robot parts from" "What, > now? > Isn't the thing due in a week and a half?"). These guys still > passed, > somehow. I acted as (unpaid of course) technical consultant to a final year student project last year. I gave them advice both on how to best (I thought) do the main task and also how to do the PC interface. They certainly didn't take my advice on how to do the main task and I acknowledge that, even though my ideas were of course better [[vvvbg]]] they showed initiative in trying to do it their way. BUT, the device was a specialist mouse emulator and was intended to appear to the PC as and function like a mouse. Looking like a USB mouse was highly desirable in the circumstances. I suggested that in order to get the system going with absolute minimum lack of knowledge they could utilise a standard mechanical ball USB mouse and emulate the interrupter input signals to the on-mouse IC. The mouse could provide the USB interface and all ID aspects. They then only need provide it with signals which appeared to be derived from its normal (rolling ball) input. As they were already effectively synthesising mouse movement signals from their interface this should have been a trivial task - or as trivial a one as was possible. But they declined to try this and launched into producing their own mouse-PC interface from a standing start. No prizes for guessing the outcome. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist