Don't have much experience with this one yet, but how about FreePCB? Copy / paste from the website: FreePCB is a free, open-source PCB editor for Microsoft Windows, released under the GNU General Public License. It was designed to be easy to learn and easy to use, yet capable of professional-quality work. It does not have a built-in autorouter, but it can use the FreeRoute web-based autorouter at www.freerouting.net. Some of its features are: 1 to 8 copper layers Board size up to 60 inches by 60 inches Uses English or metric units (i.e. mils or mm) for most functions. Footprint libraries courtesy of Ivex Design International Inc. Copper fill areas Footprint Wizard and Footprint Editor for creating or modifying footprints Imports and exports PADS-PCB netlists Exports extended Gerber files (RS274X) and Excellon drill files Design rule checker Autosave At 04:16 PM 7/26/2007, Bob Axtell wrote: >A while ago, folks were talking about less expensive PCB layout programs. >Anybody remember the links? I need: up to 8 layers, 13" x 13" max, and >it must >generate RS274X. Does NOT have to have or autoroute. -- Dwayne Reid Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax www.trinity-electronics.com Custom Electronics Design and Manufacturing -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist