Russell McMahon wrote: >>> The old joke... >>> >>> Push stick forward, houses get bigger. >>> Pull stick back, houses get smaller. >>> Pull stick back too far, houses get bigger, faster. > > ... and (quite possibly) going round and round and round and ... into > the bargain. Yep. That part's fun, when appropriate altitude and planning are involved. I think it's almost criminal that spin training has been replaced with "spin awareness" in the FAA's world... if you haven't spun one and recovered, and if your first "attempt" to do that is low and slow... you're probably going to die, looking very surprised and confused. Nate -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist