> Ok, but when the retailer KNOWS that it's bullshit, that's different. > Cellular antenna patches, etc. That's mostly what I'm so, er, revved up about. If it was probably any other product I'd not worry about it. 99.9999% of stuff for sale does at least *try* to live up to the manufacturer's claims, and you aren't giving the customer false expectations. A technique used by mail-order companies with dodgy products is to sell at a cost which makes them money but is not quite worth the customer sending it back. "All that effort to get $20 back ? Nah, not worth it, I'll just bin it and learn a lesson" Money-back isn't good enough. You're wasting people's time and there will always be people who don't ask for their money back. Which, for this product, perpetuates the myth and encourages, and funds, the scammers. And scammers is exactly what they are Repco say "This product we decided to give a go as it was a reasonable price". Price isn't really the point, although see above re mail-order I asked them if they got test results which flew in the face of all the other tests around the world. No response, but you can tell there's something wide-eyed-maybe-it-does-work-let's-give-it- a-chance going on -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist