> - Don't want to learn instruction set Why is that an abuse? I have done a few 18F projects with the C18 compiler. I know the instruction set a little bit, but I have no desire to learn it better. What is wrong with that? > - Don't want to learn hardware peripheral details That has nothing to do with HLL, everything with use of a library versus using the peripheral directly (at the register level). In the same 18F projects I used the library when I felt like it. It allowed me to finish the project faster. What's wrong with that? Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products docent Hogeschool van Utrecht: www.voti.nl/hvu -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist