I'm reverse engineering a DSM ECU. The programme memory is a TMS27C256. I have looked at the datasheet and it specifies that 13V (ish ) is required for programming. On the board that I have Vpp is tied to the 5V (Vcc) supply. Now I would have expected it to be tied to GND as there is no circuitry to switch it higher for ICP. Is there something clever that I'm missing? I'm sure that a few of you must have experience with this IC. TIA James -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist