So a client calls up.... "we want to use a PDA to get data from our box, using infrared to do it....." OK, so I'm thinking first.....use the UART and tie a IR detector/decoder to it...errr...wait...I know they have IR transievers but is there such a thing as a IR serial interface? I thought someone on here said they used IR instead of a 9pin D and such for serial debug. So if that exists...halfway there. The other side is the PDA. Again, back of my mind says theres been a discussion on this. Not looking at used PDA's per say but whatever is currently out there..standard models. Is there a model that allows user app's to be written for it? Are they running windows CE or windows mobile and can do this easily? --------------------------------- Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist