Hello, I was thinking. I have been using PICs for a few times before, and I'm professionally speaking a software guy (up to the edge of hardware, but hobbyist beyond). For myself a simple processor with very advanced software support and easy hardware interfacing (as in, electrically) would be the ideal solution. That rules out any devices I can't solder (BGA, TQFP), devices with near-none software support (BASIC stamps) and devices with complex hardware interfacing (FPGA's with softcores). The only problem I have with SDCC (which I've used up to now) is that it doesn't support C++ or anything similar. I'm expressly not out to somebody telling me C++ in a 512 byte device is bollocks, I know that you can make C++ act like a pig but I also know that you can make it work like a fairy. What kind of device would I be best off with? Regards, Peter -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist