> IDE for begineers does not help them understand most > of the options that the compiler has. For example asm > listing and map listing. Which happens to be important > for MCU development. Insulation from such details are > just a hinderance. Once they understood the compiler's > capability then IDE should be of their own choice. > > John I would say its the other way around - a beginner would use an IDE for simple projects and *then* learn and understand other options. Anyhow, there seems to be an opinion that an IDE dumbs down the compiler while this is not necessarily the case. There isn't any reason you cannot get access to any compiler options through an IDE. Eugene. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist