> I admire you guys for sending messages. > Cedric Thanks Cedric. I really do want garbage like this off the market, partly because, like most people, I'm basically honest, and very honest when it comes to claims about my own products. To claim and guarantee that magnets save fuel is very dishonest Repco are a big chain, by Australasian standards, and they should be more careful. For a company that says "Cars are our life too" you'd think they should have taken some notice of fuel- saver debunkings, specifically in NZ wrt to magnets, the AA, Consumer Magazine, and even the NZ Government http://www.aardvark.co.nz/daily/2000/0822.shtml The shop assistant I spoke to yesterday would have done his job and sold me one. I don't know whether he actually believed what he was saying. And maybe he doesn't today after the ear- ache I gave him ;-)) !! Is selling things his whole job ? I don't think so. But he can't question the company products either (my niece is a "secret shopper" and might report people like him) That a product is advertised as "money-back, no questions" is no defense against selling it in the first place. Money-back is covered by law anyway. What irks me is that some customers will not return it, for various reasons, but that doesn't mean they're satisfied. It's just too much bother, or whatever. More fool them, but that encourages the scammers and probably, by the dodgy logic that goes with their dodgy science, validates the product further We shall see what the day delivers -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist