>I believe the Vovlos suffered from failure of the electronic >throttle module rather than the ECU. This is part of the >"drive by wire" system which I have always considered a very >poor idea. Give me a throttle cable any day of the week. OK, but in a simplified way I see the two as synonymous, in that the 'wires' are still going into a lump of electronics that control the engine ... It may be a separate module that does the throttle control, to the module that does the engine management, but I suspect they are all inside the same box (but I haven't looked under the hood of a Volvo to find out) ... -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist