Russell McMahon wrote: >> And if the blue square isn't there, of if "EN" doesn't pop it, it often >> takes under a minute to put it there. > > For some values of often :-). Right. I was purposefully cautious, because I never sat at a Chinese system, much less know how a typical Chinese system looks like, nor of course how your specific system looked like. > In the guest PC room of a Taichung City hotel Murphy seemed to only > speak Chinese. OTOH, from your earlier comments about the difficulty to type accents it seems that you might not be (or not have been) familiar with the process of setting up a Windows system for several input locales. Possibly being familiar with this can help with some unwilling Chinese systems. (Again, purposefully cautious :) But of course these configuration items may have been disabled for normal users. As a side thought, it seems that using the Character Map ("charmap") and clicking may be a more efficient way to "type" than using Alt combinations. I don't know, but it's something to try on the next stubborn system. Gerhard -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist