On 6/23/07, Vitaliy wrote: > If companies can get people from India or China, to do the same job for less > money, what is wrong with that? Before you answer this question, think about > these questions: > - Why should programmers get special protection? What about other people > (say, textile workers)? Why don't we just close down the borders (or impose > high tariffs on all products), and thus protect ALL industries? I think this is because US does have an edge in hi-tech industry. And it is very hard to be competitive in labor-intensive sectors. In fact, there are many industries that US do excel, like the finance service sector. In the days of globalization it is very difficult to be self-sufficient even though US is so lucky to have plenty of nature resources and a good system. > - If the company's only goal is to pay unlivable wages to its programmers, > how can the foreigners survive (they too have live in the US), and what is > their incentive to come in the first place? The salary is not really unlivable, just lower than the one who holds the job before. They can survive. They can live a better life after getting the green card and later the citizenship. Their children can live a better life. These are all incentives. Sometimes people just blindly believe that life in US is good. > - Why not give the American educational system a kick in the pants, so it > would start churning out smart, productive programmers who can successfully > out-compete people from the outside? I do not know much about the school education system here. However I certainly think the children are happier here than in China/Japan/India and might be more creative. And I think there are many good universities here. The US PhD programs are certainly one of the best among the world. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist