On Jun 21, 2007, at 8:23 PM, Jinx wrote: > I stripped some telcom boards for parts recently and got these > in PLCC > > http://products.zarlink.com/product_profiles/MT8816.htm > > No idea what I'll use them for yet, but probably worth having They're very useful for analog audio path switching inside Amateur Radio FM repeater controllers. :-) Mitel made some nice stuff, really. The venerable MT8870 DTMF decoder is still used in an awful lot of stuff. Mitel being gone, or hard to find, or whatever... (I forget), the clone of the 8870 made by California Microdevices (CM8870) is easier to come by. That darn chip with it's variable capacitance filters will pull DTMF signals out of ridiculous amounts of noise, while also dealing with obscene amounts of both twist and skew. Sure, DSP-based solutions can match or better it, but for ease of use, the 8870 is hard to beat in a discreet component. I've seen the 8870 pull DTMF out of noisy FM radio signals that were well below the pseudo-industry-standard 12 dB SINAD "noisy signal" level. The datasheets also have a pretty nifty description of how they do it, too... was fun to read while I was putting in some serious hobbyist study-time on op-amps and filters. -- Nate Duehr nate@natetech.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist