Thanks Nate and Richard - very interesting. I'll have quite a lot of sensitive equipment on this plane so your ideas sound preferable to leaking RF into everything. I also saw something on the net about sleeve baluns so that's another possibility. Thanks for the suggestion of the ARRL antenna book - it sounds like a good way to go to learn more about this topic. Cheers, Zik VK3MHZ On 6/21/07, Nate Duehr wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2007, at 5:49 PM, Zik Saleeba wrote: > > > My problem is that the output of my transceiver is 50 ohms unbalanced > > and dipoles are an inherently ~73 ohm balanced antenna. I want to > > connect the transceiver to the antenna in the lowest loss way I can so > > I'd prefer to avoid using a balun if at all possible. Weight is also a > > consideration here. > > There's a number of ways to make a matching network, but the advice > to do it with a transmission line match is probably the sanest for > the little tiny spaces and weight considerations you're working > with. You could also look at doing a Gamma match to the dipole or > similar, but I'm not sure you'll really need it on a setup like > that. (If you were pushing 100W into it, we'd be recommending > something else.) > > As the other person said, you might just be able to "try it" and get > away with it too... most transmitters that low in power aren't going > to freak out too much with that little of a mismatch. Dipoles are > nice in that they radiate pretty darn well, even when mismatched with > the transmitter. > > Many of these little transmitters come with a built in isolator on > their output -- to keep the transmitter from caring much about > mismatched antenna systems. If yours doesn't, this is something else > you could also do, but it'll weigh more than other options. > > An isolator consists of a circulator which is a ferroresonant device > (magnetic... could cause you other problems in the aircraft) with at > least three "ports" that "forces" RF to only go one direction around > it (in a circle, kinda) and one of the ports has a 50 Ohm dummy load > on it. RF going out to the antenna gets there, RF coming back from > the antenna system goes into the load, and your transmitter always > "sees" a nice stable 50 Ohm load. > > In this case, it's probably total overkill for your application, I'm > just explaining it to show that there's a whole ton of options if you > feel like being a perfectionist. LOL! > > The biggest problem you'll have (as the other person mentioned in a > round-about way also) is RF standing waves on the transmission line > that could bother your transmitter and make it cranky and possibly > noisy/non-linear. That RF standing wave could also try get into > other things as it trys to find a way out of the antenna system. > > > > Is it "good enough" to connect the signal and ground to the two arms > > of the dipole or is there some better low-loss, low-weight way I can > > do this? > > Probably, but you'll have to try it and see. :-) It's really not > that big of a mismatch. Fire up the math and see what the > theoretical SWR will be... shouldn't be a problem. > > > Incidentally this is a for-fun project, not a hugely important > > commercial application so some bodginess is fine. > > Sounds like fun. > > If you really want a LOT of good reading about this, the ARRL Antenna > Book is excellent... whole chapters dedicated to these topics. > > I don't claim to be an expert of any kind -- learned all of it the > hard way... > > -- > Nate Duehr > nate@natetech.com > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist