How did you measure the drop? My first guess would be sulphated battery not able to provide enough current. I might also try heavy gauge wires direct from a known good (or even oversized) battery to motor, both + and - . If still no turn, then it's the motor. If it works that way, go huntin' some more. -Skip -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist