>> I imagine that eg "Brazilian Spanish" may be a meaningful concept. >> > > Er - wouldn't that be Brazilian Portugese ? No, Lithuanian Chinglish. FWIW - the cold call real estate deal Mumbai call centre people are managing far better English of late. What wrecks it is that, although they INSIST that they are calling from Auckland, they seem to invariably use a circuit with 2 satellite hops, 2 kHz bandwidth, 6 bit PCM and a random noise generator running. Presumably this is actually the result of super high compression technology over lowest cost circuits. Quite why they do this I don't know, given the cost of international volume calls these days. They seem unphased when I point out to them that I get very very very few local calls with 2 satellite hops therein. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist