I think it makes a lot more sense to get a Palm Treo 650. Most of the bugs in the software are fixed (despite occasional restarts), and there are a zillion more apps to choose from. I for one, would not buy the Apple iPhone. Maybe, if they released an SDK and allowed me to load my own software. On the other hand, maybe not. I think OpenMoko (www.openmoko.org) would be of more interest to us. -Anand -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist