just a followup. The wikipedia link that was offered ALSO did recover the pictures BUT I had to go do it for him since it wasn't some clean windows GUI thing but a dos window command line type program. But it was free, and did a good job once you understood what it was asking for --------------------------------- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top picks on Yahoo! TV. -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist