Hi Russell: Some comments about "Off". I have within arm's reach a Harbor Freight (made in China) digital vernier caliper that seems to eat batteries. Then read a web page that had demonstrations that proved that all the "Off" function did was turn off the LCD. All the rest of the functionality runs as long as the battery is installed. The Japanese calipers actually turn off and their batteries last a very long time. I've got quite good at pulling the battery. I've been monitoring my sleep using a G-Pendant from Onset Computers for 3 months about 10 hours per day on the same 2032 battery. [PIC] It uses a 16F690 and the Analog Devices XL330 3-axis accelerometer. Very cleaver design that uses an optical I/O via USB. A magnet is used to signal that I/O is desired and can trigger the start of data logging. Has no "Off" switch, but when not logging a LED flashes very briefly with a period of 8 seconds. http://www.prc68.com/I/GPend.shtml I've read that here in California there may be rules on the way that will specify how much power is consumed by "Off" electrical equipment. -- Have Fun, Brooke Clarke http://www.PRC68.com http://www.precisionclock.com -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist