>> http://www.photographyfestival.org.nz/gallery/photoday.cfm > Compare "dressed up freeway" with "black dogs at piha" and you'll > probably find there is no jury on this contest, just people looking > to pictures and vote, that's right ? You apparently haven't been subject to many photo competition judgings :-). It is VERY hard to read a top judge's brain and determine what they saw in some trivial photo that they preferred over your own stunning masterpieces :-). If I could then I would win top place in competitions :-). Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist