Hi- O.K. Just a thought. I'm not sure what the "other" interfaces are like. I *DO* know that my R/S line on this display was "funny" and had to be pulled down from an open drain connection. Opps, that one was a little 16X2 "no name" that I had using the open drain of RA4 (for the 16F628). Until I pulled it down (and yes, I had a pullup on the open drain, I had "interesting" times with it). See what happens when you don't have your data sheets with you? Cheers, Rich S. ---- Original Message ---- From: Jinx Date: Tue 6/12/07 17:16 To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. Subject: Re: [PIC] Interfacing to a Hitachi 44780 LCD in 4-bit mode > by pulling the unused data lines (up or down A genuine 44780 has internal pull-ups -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist