I imagined that that would be the same, but it's not!. That looks very like the unit sold by Jaycar which appeared functionally similar. >From reading the manual-ette at http://www.lacrossetechnology.com/ea3010/manual.pdf I find that there are at least some things that the DSE unit does which seem preferable to the Lacrosse unit, so I'm pleased that I bought the DSE unit. FWIW the DSE unit sold for $140 or so retail until recently and is now being end of line specialed for $79 retail. They haven't adjusted the trade price so it's dearer to buy trade :-). I could buy the Jaycar unit trade (actually wholesale) for less than the DSE but have to buy on account and have it shipped and the DSE unit was 'off the shelf' locally. Seems to be slightly unbalanced in that the rotor returns to a consistent home position. I may try balancing it - probably with "correcting fluid" to start as it has "high build" characteristics, is quick drying and easily removed. Ugly as a bonus. > You need to give us less information if you don't want Google to > rescue us. Not in this case, as it happens :-) > I expect you're using something similar similar, yes > indicates that it probably uses a similar interface. similar, yes. But different enough to annoy. And actually better IMHO. Which is an excellent lesson as I have learnt several things which help open up my mental filters for future experiences. > You don't mention that you have to press and hold the power button > to > turn it off, though. I think I did fwiw. >> Pressing and releasing on/off once turns it on. >> Pressing and releasing on/off again turns it off. > I won't give it away for those who want to guess without looking up > "EA3010 instructions" :-) > Though I'm curious why you went back to the shop for instructions - > perhaps if you were more of the nintendo generation you would have > checked google first? ;-) As prior email - the shop was much closer than Google was on that occasion. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist