> Though I'm curious why you went back to the shop for instructions - > perhaps if you were more of the nintendo generation you would have > checked google first? ;-) I was sitting outside the shop trying it out. I KNOW that taking it home and then trying it out is a mistake, whatever it is. Usually it is DOA, a bad remote, flat battery, missing cable etc. Some things have to be taken home to try. Some don't. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist