I had considered this flaw in the schematic as well. My assumption is that there was an internal pull-up on A1. The only thing that could make sense. Rolf Russell McMahon wrote: > I'll copy this from below as its crucial > > *** The turnoff of A0 must wait until after the button is released *** > or the still-pressed button will retrigger the circuit. > > _______________________ > > There's a fundamental problem with the circuit diagram AND there's > almost certainly a problem with your circuit implementation. > Adding a pullup on A1 makes the circuit operation defined and this may > have been specified elsewhere. > > All Off > > PNP = Q1 > NPN = Q2 > Upper diode = D1 > Lower diode = D2 > > Button = ground diode junction on so PNP on so power on. > PIC pits A0 high so NPN on so PNP held on and all is well. > > Now, A1 cannot either affect or see anything useful. > It is behind two opposed diodes so it cannot drive Q2_c hi or low > > If A1 is input and Q2 is off then Q2_c is high but D2 blocks the Q2_C > high so A1 see's a floating switch. > Pressing button changes A1 from float in to gnd in but this is not > overly useful at this stage. > > With Q2 on = power on then Q2C ~~= 0 volt so D1 cathode and D2 cathode > are at float. > Again, closing button takes A1 from float to ground. > A pullup on A1 allows the button press to be seen and then the > processor can turn power off using A0. > *** The turnoff of A0 must wait until after the button is released *** > or the still-pressed button will retrigger the circuit. > > _____________ > > With button open and no PIC then A1 *MUST* float. If it has a 10k > pullup it must pullup. If it doesn't the cct is not as shown. > > A P channel FET will work well as long as gate drive voltage is not > too high or too low. > > > Russell > > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist