Steve Smith wrote: > ICD2's go bang when you get this wrong. > > Using an isolated 130v dc with a pair of class y caps (4n7) to earth the > stored energy in these burst the icd when it was plugged in the wrong order > the power supply was fully floating. > > The 0v (-ve supply) or the shell of the comms port is connected to earth. In > my apps it's the battery -ve and is now a copper link around the icd... the > usb is not isolated from the application..... > > Rgds steve > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: piclist-bounces@mit.edu [mailto:piclist-bounces@mit.edu] On Behalf Of > Alan B. Pearce > Sent: 08 June 2007 08:47 > To: Microcontroller discussion list - Public. > Subject: Re: [PIC] ICD 2 Advisory (Grounding Question) > > >> I don't understand the need to have the system interface >> floating when programming a non-isolated AC-powered target >> device. I assume by "non-isolated," they mean the target >> device's ground is an earth ground >> > > By 'non-isolated' I think they mean there is no transformer in the mains > supply to the target device, when running off mains power. Personally I > would be very worried about doing this as it means all the test equipment is > > connected to mains potential, and hence potentially (no pun intended) > lethal. > > On the other hand they may be talking about the earth, as it could be > possible to have an earth loop through the ICD and test equipment back to > the mains earth, as well as the earth direct from the target to mains earth. > > This could induce significant fault currents around the loop, and may be the > > cause of ICD buffers being destroyed (as has been reported here at various > times). > > You are right. It happens often. --Bob -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist