Thanks for reporting back > and a 11 NFD capacitor across the LED 'across' ? Diode, cap and LED should be in series, like in the white LED string link and this http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/joecolquitt/txlesspsu.gif > The LED looks a little brighter than I would normally run, but couldn't > make it dimmer by changing capacitor, or adding another diode in series If you didn't mean to say 'across' up there ^^^ The capacitor restricts only the current, you need to control the voltage (as in link above). With a very light or no load you might still measure 600VAC. The LED you have might be quite efficient, perhaps add a parallel resistor (highish value) or series resistor (lowish value - 1k ?) to increase the load (thereby reducing the available voltage). Although cap in series *should* be enough, adding a resistor won't hurt -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist