> Forgot to add, make sure "Log on using Secure Password Authentication" is NOT checked. > Regards > Mike Virtual Coke / Sarsaparilla / Whatever coming your way. That did the trick. I'll have to rererecheck BUT I was sure that I saw somewhere along the line that it SHOULD be ticked. It was. It shouldn't have been. It now seems to work OK. many thanks Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist