On 6/2/07, eric dacumi wrote: > hi to all am a hobbiyist, Being a hobbit I suppose you'll build the PIC programmer yourself. Almost any $3 parallel or serial programmer you''ll find on the web will do your job. Here are some good free software for such programmers (with links to hardware schematics): http://www.ic-prog.com http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/winpicpr.html Other utilities could be the free MPLAB or any other free compiler for PIC (there are so many). Try jalV2: http://www.geocities.com/vsurducan/comunity/comunity.html -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist