I haven't followed much of this string, but I would think you could do something with a neon light bulb and a bit of wire as an antenna, if needed. Electric fences don't pack a lot of current, but I would think you could get a neon light bulb or even a small flourescent tube to light up next to the electric fence without physically contacting it. --- Carl Denk wrote: > Thanks much!. :) I'll try the suggestion in the > next day or 2. Outdoor > work has me busy at the moment, but rain should > drive me in over the > weekend. Those links look very good also. > > Jinx wrote: > >> Some other fence controllers (power supplies) > have electronics and > >> DO pulse, but not my cheap model. > >> > > > > In that case then you really are measuring plain > AC. If you assume it's > > 660VAC, you could use a standard red LED, Vf = > 1.7, I = 5mA > > > > R = (E - Vf) * 1000/ImA > > > > R = (660 - 1.7) * 1000/5 > > > > R = 658.3 * 200 > > > > R = 131.660k > > > > Put a reverse parallel diode (1N914) across the > LED. Resistor will need > > to withstand 660VAC (don't know whether you're > measuring pk-pk or > > RMS) and would be better made of several smaller R > in series. General > > purpose Rs are usually 200V rated, but err on the > cautious side. If the > > LED is dim you could reduce R in increments to get > the brightness you > > want. Rather depends on the specs of the LED > > > > Alternatively a dropping capacitor to limit > current (with suitable voltage > > rating, eg 1kV). 1uF will pass approx 70mA, so > 68nF will allow about > > 5mA through. Some examples and principles of > AC-powered LEDs here > > > > > http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Bill_Bowden/page10.htm > > > > > http://www.discovercircuits.com/H-Corner/AC-Powered.htm > > > > Google about for others > > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive > View/change your membership options at > http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist