> Isn't this all about sound science, and that it won't change > "anytime soon"? :) > > Gerhard Science need evidence, so where is it? Pick a technology where efficiency is improving, say LED light output vs power. Plot how that changes over time. You should be able to extrapolate where it breaks the 100% mark. Yay! Take that, physics. Maybe you could ask Keelynet for hydrogen production rates from electrolysis or something. Or, as someone mentioned, we could just solve Einsteins Grand Unified Theory. Not sure how that would break thermodynamics, but we could get anti-gravity. Neat! Well, this thread got tedious fast. Tony -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist