Posted as much for the "is something strange happening here" query as for the map info. A world map which seems to be Google Earth based. May have some advantages. http://world.en.vicdir.com/ Site also has a directory of businesses / services / occupations / more ... HOWEVER it seems like it may also be reading my brain in some manner (and me without my tinfoil cap on) ... There is a list of "recent posts" and amongst them was a "History of Urumqi" post by "user18789". http://world.en.vicdir.com/7199a569 This user profile says - "Detail info is not available". In fact NO information whatsoever is available. Now, it happens, that I AM interested in Urumqi (farthest city from the sea on earth amongst other things) as I have a friend who lives there, but I would be somewhat surprised if a random recent post happened to relate to such an otherwise obscure place. This "user" also seems to have posted all the posts with any significant material in. Other posts are by guests and or contain essentially rubbish or ads. Map may still be useful but I wonder about the site. Russell -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist