Russell, whatever happened to storage of energy by compressed air? Or by inertial energy (a spinning weight) ? Since the issue for vehicles is really just THAT, storage of energy in some form. I seem to recall an American city trying inertially-driven buses for public transportation. I know that compressed air is the "starting fuel" of choice for the starting of ships' huge diesel engines; nothing else is able to start such huge cylinders, yet a blast of compressed air turns them over in a twinkling of an eye. I think if platinum is a REQUIREMENT for fuel cell cars, only wealthy people could afford to buy them. 'course, its almost at that point now for gasoline-fueled cars... --Bob Russell McMahon wrote: > Earth's resources are running out - is the thesis of this New > Scientist article snippet (for the full article you need to join or to > use Gargoyle).. > > The claims are worrying, or should be. "Peak oil" has nothing on this > :-). > This relates to many materials, but the emphasis here is on Platinum > and especially the work of Dr Hazel Pritchard. This lady is interested > in Platinum - but Dr Pritchard's special interest is in finding new > sources and in its utilisation and conservation. She is also > interested in the prospect of reclaiming it from city streets where it > is deposited from catalytic converters, although the levsl involved > make that prospect an uneconomic one at present. [[Traffic tunnels and > their venticxllation systems may be a better target]]. > > > > Russell > > _______________________ > > Platinum is a far more limited resource than many other materials, > with no known alternatives in many cases. > > They say > "It has been estimated that if all the 500 million vehicles in > use today > were re-equipped with fuel cells, operating losses would mean > that all > the world's sources of platinum would be exhausted within 15 > years." > > A good case against fuel cells ? :-) > > > http://environment.newscientist.com/channel/earth/mg19426051.200?DCMP=NLC-nletter&nsref=mg19426051.200 > > __________________ > > Gargoyling - > > A Royal Society ref to Dr Pritchard's work. > > http://www.royalsoc.ac.uk/page.asp?id=1550 > > Cardiff University directory of expertise > > http://www.expertise.cf.ac.uk/staff.asp?details=561 > > Dr Hazel Prichard > School/Division School of Earth, Ocean and Planetary Sciences > Email sgchmp@cardiff.ac.uk > Area of Expertise Platinum and gold, Oceanic crustal rocks, Mineralogy > and geochemistry, Economic geology, Geological exploration for metals > Languages Spoken Portuguese > Work Telephone (029) 2087 4323 > > > > Many other references. > > > -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist