alan smith wrote: > I've sent an email to the end user asking to describe what isnt working exactly. Of course I expect an answer...it doesnt activate when stepped on....hmmm...guess its broken. I'd rather not make too many trips to site, waste of time and fuel (but I charge these guys mileage at least) > > That's kinda why I suggested looking at failure modes. If it's wet, and muddy, there's lots of possibility for the pressure sensor not having anything to press against underneath as mud softens, if I understand the design right, and any design that depends on up/down motion will probably fail. Mud will get in the gap, cavities can form under the stone, grit can seize moving parts, etc. The design has to be able to return to the start position under all mud conditions most likely, so any motion has to be sealed. I would also guess the travel is small, since stepping on stones that move a lot would be annoying, and this makes the affect of grit or shifting worse. How about a light beam across each stone? The foot breaks the beam. Or embed a hall sensor or better, a reed switch, in the top of each stone and embed some rare earth magnets in the soles of the stone walker's shoes? If the step can be made loud enough, as in hard shoes vs sneakers, an embedded electret element might work too, but will have to be adjusted so thunderstorms and lawnmowers don't set it off. Same idea as the piezo one, but more easily waterproofed I'd think. -Skip -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist