I think this is being over-thunked! If not by the window, say on the other side, you'd have a room that was 50 degrees on one side by the window (even more leakage in the old days), and 80 degrees + (F) on the other! Grandma certainly would not have put up with that! She'd tell you you'd catch a cold right in the living room... ;) -Skip -- http://www.piclist.com PIC/SX FAQ & list archive View/change your membership options at http://mailman.mit.edu/mailman/listinfo/piclist